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Old 01-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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dinky , i see a post like that and i def. dont read it....maybe its just me but i'd keep it short, most people go to the library for books
I agree and would also add the you can get all the across in a few posts. Alot will overlook good info because it is long winded and IF You did a copy paste from another source that is fine... CREDIT your source.


cpt316 doesnt that much PB shut down and insulin response that you want from drinking PWO carbs?
And I totally agree the PWO shake is a part of your overall diet which needs to be in tact..

My PWO shake is

60g Iso100 (Pure isolate)
60g Waxy Maixe
5g Glutamine
2g CEE
2g Taurine

It is all measured on a digi scale.

If I do cardio PWO it is low intensity Active Recovery Cardio., Enough to elevate the BP to move the nutrients at a faster rate..
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:41 AM
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Yep, Big Mike said it all. I would never do peanut butter in a pwo shake unless I had to. But I do use PB in all my regular weight gainer shakes that take the place of a meal.

There are different approaches, but a lot of people make the mistake of not calculating the pwo shake into the daily intake of your macronutrients, just because it is a 'pwo shake' and not a meal. ALL calories, grams of protein, fats, and carbs must be accounted for, not just the 'meals'.
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RFG, normally yes. However cpt qualified it with saying that he prefers a ketogenic approach (no carbs) where insulin is low anyway and your brain lives of of ketones and the body off of the stored fat so in the scenario cpt laid out PWO fats would be essential as they are the only source of energy the body is taking in.

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Cool, I want to try a Keto diet but I get anger issues on low carb days. I think I would go nuts trying that...
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Actually, after a few days you are fine with plenty of energy. It's just a matter of getting into ketosis so your brain feeds off of the ketone bodies and your body feeds off of the fat. No anger issues if done right.


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Thanks again, anyone have a quick copy of a good diet?

I cant bulk. I am getting depressed seeing the bf go up... For real. It is fucking with my head..

I jut off carbs after 8 now and dropped all the milk back out.
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Actually, after a few days you are fine with plenty of energy.
Agreed. The first few days I feel like I'm going to die though LOL.

Good luck, RFG. Some people love Keto diets, some people hate em.
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I'll start a diet thread with what I am doing now.. It's basically a clean diet nothing timed...
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MY pwo consist of a 30 gram blend from true protien

Hydrolyzed Casein 25%
PeptoPro (Hydrolyzed Caseinate) 40%
Hydrolyzed Whey Protein High Grade 20%
L-Leucine by the Pound 5%
Branch Chain Amino Acids INSTANTIZED (BCAA's) 10%
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50g WMS
3g CEE
2g argine
4g taurine
3g Citrulline Malate
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Post workout i make a shake with waxi maixe, 15 grams BCAAs, 5 grams creatine and 10 grams glutamine. 15-20 mins. later i have 50 grams whey isolate and 1 hour after that i have my solid meal. I hope this helps.
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