trying to get ripped not ripped off

[nunizzle]

so i am soon going to be purchasing some gear....wanna do about a 10 week cycle of sust 250 at 250/week...and deca 400/week..or eq..dont know what dose to use that at...could you guys reccomend the amount of clomid and anit e's i will need? also how much they will cost? So how much will all that stuff cost so i dont get ripped off? thansk peace

[Liv]

I would suggest you run your sust @ 500wk not just 250 i have heard the gains are considerably increased @ 500mg/wk. Also the sust wont be active till about week 4 so maybe think about adding some dbol in there to jumpstart your gains i would say at about 35mgs/wk for at least 4 weeks.

Average street prices

Dianabol $0.60-$1 you will need about 250-300
Clomid and Nolvadex vary from about 1-4 Dollars a piece

You can never have enough of clomid and nolvadex but you would be safe with 10 tabs (20mgs) of nolvadex. (only use if sides such as gyno occur)

And you will only need the clomid as post cycle and i would recommend it at the dose of 100mgs for the last week of your cycle and 50mgs for the 2 weeks after that.

All the clomid i have seen is 50mgs per tab so that will calculate to about 28 tabs.

That cycle you sounded off sounds close to what I suggested for some one else, but try this. Like LIV said jump start with Dbol and run everything else like this.

Wks 1-6 Dbol 30mgs ed (252 Dbol tabs)
Wks 1-10 Sust 500mgd wk ( 10mls Sust)
Wks 1-10 Deca 300mgs wk ( 10mls Deca)
Wks 12-13 Clomid 100mgs ed ( 28 tabs)
Wks 14-15 Clomid 50mgs ed ( 14 tabs)

The Dbol will jump start your gains, and give you an edge in the mass/strength area until the Sust/Deca kick in about 3/4 weeks later, and because the Sust/Deca will remain active for up to 3/4 weeks after last administration, start the clomid like I sugested above, this will help kick your Testes back into high gear.
The Dbol will run app. $200, the Sust app. $100, and the Deca app. $160, and the Clomid app. $1 per tab. But again these prices reflect only sample of sources prices, and can be higheror lower depending on who you know!!!!

[Big Al]

Wont the Sust be in the blood form day 1 due to its 4 esters that act at different times? Just curious on that part of Livs post.

[58driver]

What's up BIG Al???


Hey how long does it take for Test En and Test Cyp to start working?

[Liv]

Blah blah blah... Sust has long acting and short acting esters, and it will take about 3-4 weeks for the long acting esters to kick in, you know this big al but im glad ya went ahead and questioned me. . .appreciate it



Pecs Quote
"The Dbol will jump start your gains, and give you an edge in the mass/strength area until the Sust/Deca kick in about 3/4 weeks later"

Livs quote
"Also the sust wont be active till about week 4 so maybe think about adding some dbol in there to jumpstart your gains"

Thanks for calling me out bro.

[nunizzle]

hey guys thanks for the advice...that was about what i thought it was gonna cost...so which should i go with deca or eq? I want to add quality muscle that i will keep most of...and cut down on some fat while on this cycle....so with that in mind which would be better?

[Skii]

Nice attitude Liv.

[Big Al]

Hey what are we here for if its not for exploring every option.

[SHINE]

Nunsizzle I would stick with EQ as it won't bring the intramuscular fat like deca. (don't neglect your diet either!)


And to add sus will kick in faster than 4 weeks if you do a small frontload!!! YES! alrighty then.

[nunizzle]

so if i go with the eq...what should the dosage be? and for how long?

[SHINE]

A good starting point is 400mg/week devided into two shots per week. And run it all the way through for 10 weeks.

Well LIV I tried to give ya props for you post but for some damn reason ya constantly have this fucking chip and bullshit attitude... Neither BigAl or Myself tried to steal your thunder, but it's all general knowledge....you can't handl it, go back to your other board....afterall, you don't need TM anymore remember...all we do is discuss unneccesary protocols and obnoxious dosages...aren't those your words from a discussion we had a few weeks ago!!!!!

[Liv]

lol.. maybe the flame board wasnt a good idea after all... people cant take jokes!!

Thats ok though, i wont say all the things we talked about PECS i wont sink to that level, not my style. But you and i both know what time it is.

Yeah time for.....nah I won't go there.

Lets just stick to the subject at hand and see if we can't help this guy out. What does everyone think?