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[dgm]

im 39/6-2/250/6yrs training/9cycles, i have following susbstances available -tren a/sust250/deca300/prop/winstroltabs/clen and semorelin(hgh releaser). Looking for the best run- single,split or otherwise -im posting my last few ideas.

week 1 deca 600
2 deca 600
3 deca 600 sust 1000
4 deca 600 sust 750
5 deca 600 sust 500
6 sust 250 prop 150 tues/thurs
7 - 12 prop 150/ tren ace 100 sun/tues/thurs
3 - 12 winstrol tabs 50mg mon-fri/ hcg 500iux2
7 - 8 and 11-12 clen
novla if needed during cycle and 10 days after last inj 40/40/20/20
also considering semorelin(hgh releaser) 1-12.

or



1-5 deca600/sust500
1-5 and 8-12 winstrol tabs 50mg a day mon-fri
6-12 prop100ed/tren75ed
7-8 and 11-12 clen
and poss semorelin 1-12

can i go mon-fri on prop/ace without an issue - looking at prop 500/tren375 vs 700/525.

anyone have any thoughts on semorelin

with this i would be bringing tren in on next week after last deca-should i hold off tren to 7th week to give deca time to drop off as i know they are not rec with each other.

would you go with the split on the winstrol?

or
1-10 deca300/winstrol 50 mg mon-fri/sust500/hcg 500iux2

post novla 14 days after last shot of deca 40/40/20/20

11-22 semorelin


23-30 prop100/tren ace75 mon-fri

could split winny over the two cycles-running only last half of each

thanks,dgm

[dgm]

anyone- i know im new to this site, but i have been a member of bb.com for past 3plus years.

[ripper225]

dude, all those suggested cycles are shitty. i believe you when you say you've been a member at bb.com for 3 yrs lol

not trying to bust your balls, but this isn't rocket science. keep it simple.

how much of each do you have to work with? if you're trying to piece together a cycle from a bunch of 3/4 empty vials, then that might explain why your proposed cycles are so jacked... if you've got plenty to work with just do 750mg/wk sust + 600mg/wk deca for wks 1-10. wind it down with prop and/or winni for wks 9 or 10 until week 13 or 14 or so. this way you keep blood levels stable during the cycle and still finish up on the short acting gear so you can jump right into PCT.

[samax64]

like ripp said how many bottles of what do you have ???

[bigriggs00]

I don't know where to begin...just scrap those ideas and start over. Please never visit the steroid section at bb.com again.

You have things on hand to create many different combinations of good cycles. However, those you mentioned need improvements. Stick to the basics and keep it simple. Here is just one suggestion. You can toy with the doses according to your needs but you get the idea:

12 weeks:
sust.........750mg/wk
deca........400-600mg/wk
winstrol....50mg daily week 1-4 and/or 9-12

[~R~F~G~]

Originally Posted by bigriggs00

I don't know where to begin...just scrap those ideas and start over. Please never visit the steroid section at bb.com again.

You have things on hand to create many different combinations of good cycles. However, those you mentioned need improvements. Stick to the basics and keep it simple. Here is just one suggestion. You can toy with the doses according to your needs but you get the idea:

12 weeks:
sust.........750mg/wk
deca........400-600mg/wk
winstrol....50mg daily week 1-4 and/or 9-12

I like bigrigs cycle. It's a proven combo. Week 10 drop the DECA.

You mentioned HCG, During or after is up to you. Short cycles I use it after long I use it during.

Are you running an AI?

[DGAF]

Originally Posted by bigriggs00

I don't know where to begin...just scrap those ideas and start over. Please never visit the steroid section at bb.com again.

You have things on hand to create many different combinations of good cycles. However, those you mentioned need improvements. Stick to the basics and keep it simple. Here is just one suggestion. You can toy with the doses according to your needs but you get the idea:

12 weeks:
sust.........750mg/wk
deca........400-600mg/wk
winstrol....50mg daily week 1-4 and/or 9-12

I agree with running it this way. I seen that you have HCG, I would run the HCG for the whole cycle at 500iu`s E5D up to PCT. I would drop the Deca off at week 10 like suggested and run the Sust to week 12 and start your PCT 1 week after the last Sust shot.


DGAF

[thunder]

I agree w/ Bigriggs. Keep it simple. You should grow just fine w/ your diet being intact as well.

[dgm]

thanks for the honest info - i currently have 2 sust250 and one deca 300 - i can get i more of each. Ive got enough winny for 7 full weeks or 10 weeks mon-fri. The semorelin is something i have been thinking about,all i know right now it is an hgh releaser and was hoping to find out more info here.

I dont have an ai but can get armidex

i hb tren ace and have plenty - was going to get prop. Looks like my next cycle?

also have 120 clens 20mcg - where would u put this.

i,m going to run protein 400-450 carbs 200-250 fat 100-150 - look ok?

[samax64]

what are you trying to do get size or cut ??

[samax64]

If that is what you have I would run the
sust 1-10 0r 20 I like long cycle at 750 a week you will need more
tren 1-10 0r if you go long 10-20
then the winn the last 6-8 weeks
I have ran this before but with test E and had great results
save the deca for when you have more or if you can run that the first ten weeks at 300 then on to the tren.. The winny could help if yopu get sides from the tren and keep anti e's on hand just incase
JMO

[dgm]

lean/bulk if you will - last cycle got to 287 and now down to 252 -want keep under 270 and cut.

[ripper225]

Originally Posted by dgm

lean/bulk if you will - last cycle got to 287 and now down to 252 -want keep under 270 and cut.

go with the sust/deca suggested above... if you're not doing a stupid "see food" bulk and actually stick with your protin 400-450 carbs 200-250 fat 100-150 you should get some very quality, lean results.

save the clen. and get some sort of AI. if you dont' need it, great -- if you do you'll be glad you had it. AND it's something you can always have for later if you don't use it.

prop + tren A will be great for a next cycle. you don't need to cram everything you've got into this one.

[dgm]

thanks again - ok so i will run 750 sust 1-12/ 500-600 deca 1-10/ 50mg 1-4 and 9-12. run armidex if needed. run hcg 500iux2 3-12. post one week after last sust inj-novla 40/40/20/20. Do you think sust is good here and if so how many times a week do you shoot. Reason i ask is have someone looking for one or both of my sust and i could switch up if preferred - enth,cyp,ultra250-100e/100c/50p or testo-200e/50p.

[greenleaf]

Originally Posted by dgm

thanks for the honest info - i currently have 2 sust250 and one deca 300 - i can get i more of each. Ive got enough winny for 7 full weeks or 10 weeks mon-fri. The semorelin is something i have been thinking about,all i know right now it is an hgh releaser and was hoping to find out more info here.

I dont have an ai but can get armidex

i hb tren ace and have plenty - was going to get prop. Looks like my next cycle?

also have 120 clens 20mcg - where would u put this.

i,m going to run protein 400-450 carbs 200-250 fat 100-150 - look ok?

yea you need more. the deca should be run at somewere around 10 weeks and the test should go 12.