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[dandre]

whats up fellas,im new to this forum so i dont know the status of anyone but if someone can help please do so..has anyone heard of ansomone hgh?its from china and i found it really cheap..im thinking of doing a cycle of growth but find it rather expensive,about $200 a week..this stuff(ansomone)i can get 120ius for around $600 2 months worth..huge price difference...if anyone has heard of this please let me know..thanks

[afipunkrocks]

uuhh....120iu for 600 smacks is not really cheap bro!

[bigrak04]

Sorry, I haven't heard anything about it. The price ain't too bad though. Like you said, it could be alot higher. You were planning on running it at 2iu's a day for 60 days? How old are you? If you are under 40 you will probably need more than that. Also, What are your goals?

[dandre]

i have lots of experiance with roids but none with growth..how about 4 iu's a day,500mgs of sust for 6 weeks,with fina for about the same 6weeks..do you think 2 months is long enough for the growth?do i need to take insulin with it?id rather not unless i have to..im 27..started lifting and taking supplements at age 23(130lbs)now 165lbs 5ft8,and ripped..i want more size,better gains..sure wish i knew more about that ansomone growth...many fakes runnin around?thanks fellas for all info

[cornfed 2]

If you have been using supplements and working out for 4 years at you are only a lean 165, growth hormone isn't going to do much for you.

I'd take a serious look at your diet and training.

[dandre]

so just juice then,correct?man i eat like a horse..atleast 200-250 grams protien a day,lots of complex carbs(around 350-400grams day).im pretty religious about my diet..i mix it up alot also,tuna,protien shakes,potatoes.....so growth wont get me bigger?

[dandre]

as far as what i do in the gym,i powerlift...member of APA,competed and did well..so im as strong as most 200lb guys just without the size...i want size

[ghostdog]

man i eat like a horse..atleast 200-250 grams protien

i want size

You need to add more protein in there,

1.5-2.5 per pound of bodyweight.

So you should aim for about 250-400 grams a day, of quality complete protein to grow the size you want.

[Airborne]

Hey bro, glad you came here to learn. A few things, I agree with all the posts above and also sust for 6 wks seems to short for my taste. the first thing we should look at is you diet what is you weight, BF, height, what does you work out consist of? give us more info

[cornfed 2]

Growth hormone or juice for that matter aren't going to help you gain muscle without having enough calories.

Your powerlifting routine is probably a good way to put on mass, you sound like you need more fuel.

It takes 4 years to put on serious mass, it takes 16 weeks to cut. A lot of people get hung up on putting on fat, restrict their calories and consequently never put on much mass.

You mentioned you compete in the APA. Just out of curiosity, what is your total?

[dandre]

i am 5ft9,lean165lbs,i work out 5 on 1 off..
example
mon-chest,traps..i always go heavy enough to only get 8 reps or so..flat,incline dumbell,decline,then cables to finish-more reps
tues-legs..lunges,squats,ext,curls,press,haksquats..i change it up alot..i do 4 exercises
wends-sholders
thurs-back..deadlift,pullups,dumbell rows,etc....
fri-arms

[dandre]

should i do more reps to get the tonage up??ill defanitly eat more carbs,and protien....should i change gear??always test/deca/eqp...ive done maybe 4-5cycles in the last 4 years..ive got lots of test/fina/deca......how should i use it,if at all...thanks ..i love to learn

[dandre]

ttl is 1180lbs...310bench,495 deadlift,375 squat...no suit..i know my legs are not that strong but im working on it..im 27

[Tapeworm]

Hey Dandre, were all of ur past cycles fairly short, like 6 weeks? And how much were u using?

[SHINE]

Originally posted by dandre
ttl is 1180lbs...310bench,495 deadlift,375 squat...no suit..i know my legs are not that strong but im working on it..im 27

Those are verry respectable totals!