shoulder

[chunk]

I was wondering who else on here is having shoulder problems? I want to hear someone else bitch about it to let me know I am not alone. I feel that I had a partial tear that took place about three years ago while benching without properly warming up. I think it healed,but I have some impingement. I do get kinda sore sometimes after certain activities, and I avoid certain lifts. I went to the doc a year or so back and he x-rayed it but didn't do a MRI because he said my stregnth in that shoulder was so strong that he felt there was no way it was a complete tear. He just gave me a cortisone injection(something I don't do for obvious reasons alot) I am guessing to shrink my bursa back down and then gave me the whole "pay me now or pay me later" speech. I'll pay him later! I just hope it holds up for another 10 or so years before it goes I am 26. Anyway just wondering if others on here have clicking shoulders?

[58driver]

I do. It doesn't happen all the time anymore unless I use heavy weights on shoulder routines

[TarheelMBS]

Yeah man my shoulders aren't all that great either they consistently hurt or are tender about every other day.

[determined]

Yeah that's one thing that I constantly have problem with.

[vindiesel]

Shoulder injuries/pain are quite common in our sport. Our shoulders suffer a lot, guys (with all that lifting, pulling, pushing ...).

[tattoojr]

I've been battling shoulder issues for years. Now I've actually found someone that knows something about whats what and he told me the following.If I have an inpingement cuz I have mostly FRM only a little point where it hurts, I need to stretch my biceps tendon by hanging for a couple of minutes a day and it could be my rear delts are not as developed as the front and are pulling things that way. So I need to work my rear delts 3 times a week to help them out. I tried the hanging thing and got releif fora short time but I want no inpingement at all. Next I'll work on why my feet and legs are sore in the morning when I wake up and get better as the day goes on. J.R.

[vindiesel]

Originally Posted by tattoojr

I've been battling shoulder issues for years. Now I've actually found someone that knows something about whats what and he told me the following.If I have an inpingement cuz I have mostly FRM only a little point where it hurts, I need to stretch my biceps tendon by hanging for a couple of minutes a day and it could be my rear delts are not as developed as the front and are pulling things that way. So I need to work my rear delts 3 times a week to help them out. I tried the hanging thing and got releif fora short time but I want no inpingement at all. Next I'll work on why my feet and legs are sore in the morning when I wake up and get better as the day goes on. J.R.

That makes sense ... The chiropractor said that I had an impingement and that my arm/shoulder pain could be related to cervical problems. The thing is that even the chiropractor only offers relief for a short time. When I hit the gym again or even sooner, the pain is back. The only thing that works so far is ... sticking to lighter weights. I know it sucks but it's worse to have to workout around an injury IMHO.

Take care, JR and keep us posted!

[run4weed]

Hey bro sorry to hear bout your problems. I had shoulder surgry may 9th of this year. I tor the cuff and had a lot of scare tissue removed. I have been out of training for about 6 months and can return lifting in a month or so. Let me tell what a pain in the butt, I gained 45 pounds of fat doing nothing for so long. It is getting better but it is very sore, what ever you do have it checked out soon. the shoulder is very complex if not fixed it can cause problems the rest of your life. Hey, good luck bro.

[TommyD]

I had the labrum torn, and other problems, fixed in both shoulders by surgery

[JoshuaBuilder]

I can totally relate to what you are saying. When this happened to me I reduced the weights I was lifting when it hurt.

[hope27]

While I am not an advocate for running to the doctor with every ache and pain, I am unclear as to why the doctor did not do an MRI. An x-ray is not going to show what he should be looking for. That is not the purpose of x-rays. When I had my first shoulder surgery, the physician's assistant and the orthopdic doctor made an incorrect diangosis based off of an x-ray. I had both open and closed MRI's and thank goodness 7 months later they did my first surgery. I have to say it doesn't make sense that because you are strong nothing could be wrong. Personally, I would find another doctor and get a second opinion. The shoulder is so complex. I actually had to have a second surgery as my doctor the first time somehow missed my partially torn bicep. I guess I dont feel confident in the doctor saying because you are so strong you cant have a tear. I never had any pain in my shoulder till the day I injured it and yet based on how I acquired my injurty it is pretty inconceivable that I had no idea the muscle was tearing and fraying and it was. While I injured it per se on an excercise, the damage was due to another sport. So, I would probably get another opinion at this point unless you can live with the pain and make gains.

As you said though you want to "pay him later" I would just suggest you rethink this. Impingment alone may necessitate surgery where they go in and abrade the bone to give you more space.

As far as partial versus total tear. I obviously had a partially tearing muscle I was totally unaware of til I did upright rows one day. My seonc surgery to figure out why I was in so much pain was because the first doctor missed my partially torn bicep. So, until the second surgeon went in, neither one of us was really sure what was going on. So, he basically clipped my bicep tendon at the long head and said it grows back naturally, and did some other clean up work related to scar tissue.

Good luck! I could bitch all day long about shoulders:-)

[John Benz]

Try taking 5-6 tbsn Flax Oil a day until the shoulder heals. Fish oil is even better at reducing joint inflammation due the EPA, but is much more expensive. Remember that oils are calorie dense, but nothing works as well for healing rotator cuff knee and elbow injuries.

Fish oil is the gold standard for reducing joint inflammation and works very differently from Flax oil. Both are excellent sources of EFA, but fish oil has a better balance of the 3 omegas- 3,6, & 9. The omegas are indispensable for cell growth, circulation, immune function, healthy skin, and the prevention of degenerative diseases. Fish oil also contains EPA and DHA which are important in brain function, and research is ongoing in using it for treatment of Alzheimer's.

Continuous use of Flax oil has caused concern about an imbalance of EFA in the body. Hemp oil is the best oil from plant sources, and UDO's is a blend of flax and other vegetable oils to give a better omega profile. But Fish oil is the king, and relieves joint inflammation by brute force of its EPA content.

I use a combination of Flax for EFA and Fish Oil for EPA.....and even though both Cod Liver Oil contains both EPA and DHA, you should not take too much or use it in place of regular FISH oil, due to the Vit A and Vit D content, which is the primary reason for taking it.

I have found flax oil even more important than glucosamine for sore joints and tendons.

But the best glucosamine capsule on the market is Beverly joint care. Joint Care contains Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM, as well as Vit C & E, manganese, boron, and evening primrose oil, which is now being praised as a wonder supp for sore joints. These come in big gel caps, and seem to work far better on rotator cuff and elbow soreness than any other glusamine supp I've tried. 3 capsules contain 1000mg Glucosamine sulfate.


Always warm up thoroughly before lifting and keep doing lightweight rotator cuff exercises. If pain persists see an ART doc. Read thread below.

http://www.offshorebodybuilding.com/...18915-art.html

[Jester]

listen to John Benz... he used to live next door to the guy that invented the shoulder

[John Benz]

I wonder how many realize you are an inventer as well!

http://www.offshorebodybuilding.com/...p-me-shit.html

[Jester]

I was smoking a bag of crack a day back then.... and I would have never had made it if you hadn't bought that 100 units from me.
Thanx JB... you saved my life!!!