blood pressure high

[sTakiN iRoN]

i have started d-bol 30 mg a day for 4 wks on the 8th of dec and 500mg of sus for 10 wk,i got sick and felt like shit yesterday so i went to the doctor to get some antibiotics or whatever and they checked my bp and it was 158 over 70 he said it was high and asked me if i take any workout medicine i said protein ,creatine then he said any steroids i said no i cant deal with the needles he said theres pills to.....so anyways he wants to see me in 2 wks for the bp why is it so high is that normal with d-bol and sus?thanks for your advice.......also will it be allright to take the antibiotics and nasal decongestion while on my cycle ?is that why the doctor wanted to know if i was on anything...

[bigrak04]

Don't worry about it. 158 over 70 is a little high but nothing to really worry about. Its when the second number gets up to 90+ that you should start to worry. D-bol made my BP sky rocket. In my 5th week of running d-bol my bp was 220 over 110. Once I stopped the d-bol it went down to 160 over 78. If your concerned start taking an anti-e like armidex or nolva. This will help with the estro which could be one reason it is so high. Drink 1-2 gallons of water a day. Supplement with potassium and watch your sodium intake. Consider adding more fiber to your diet. Also garlic is supposed to help lower bp cause it thins your blood. Cardio is also a good remedy to high BP. Taking antibiotics is fine along with the nasal spray. If the remedys I have outlined for you don't help enough you might want to consider droping the d-bol.

[johnnyblev]

Yep...Rak hit it...I just went to the doctor and I have bronchitis and my blood pressure was 170/98....I'm on test and fina so I told the doc my pressures up because I'm eating 5000-6000 cal. a day for bulking...

[cornfed 2]

Dudes, a good doctor is to take care of your life and health. In order to do that effectively, he needs accurate information about you. If you tell him/her the truth, rather than some not very believable story, he can do his job making sure that you aren't the largest 30 year old in the cemetary. Plus, you might be surprised at how helpful he can be, ie. bloodtests and possibly scripts.

Doctor/patient confidentiallity is pretty tight so there are not a lot of worries about it leaking out.

If he doesn't understand what you are doing and just lectures you, find another doc.

[afipunkrocks]

Yeah but one mention of steroids or high liver enzymes on an insurance report and say bye bye to health insurance forever.

[tattoojr]

I'm with Afi on this one. If your paying the doctor out of your pocket thats one thing, but if its an insurance doc then anything they can use to stop treatment or should I say to limit unnessessary expenditures then thats what they will do. And if you think that they don't share that stuff with another insurance company ,try this get life insurance with 1 company and tell them that you used to smoke and party and then get life insurance thru another company and let them know you've be clean all your life. I'll bet the second company knows just what you said to the first before the ink dries. Just my .o2 J.R.

[talon93]

Bigrak really answered this post well, but I just want to restate a couple of things. As mentioned, it is the second number which is the most important, as it is the constant pressure exerted on your blood vessels. The first is just the pressure when your heart pumps. When you are on gear, all of your organs are working more efficiently(faster) so a raise in BP is normal. I control mine through a very low sodium diet, which sucked until I got used to it and now it isn't a problem. Drink lots of water as well and you should be fine.

[cornfed 2]

I trust my doc with my life and wouldn't go to anyone I couldn't trust.

On hormones, my doc is way cool on this. He believes in hormones for older men as a form of life extension.

Things that are covered under insurance, we run through insurance. Things that aren't, he writes a script and I get it filled with cash.

[Ranger]

I understand your concern for your blood pressure. Recently, mine went to 200/120 while using nothing more than 200mg test cyp weekly that I have under prescription for HRT from my doctor. He knows all about my gear use and I tell him when I am on so he can do the proper tests to monitor me.

I am already on four different BP meds due to heridetary high BP and job stress. Even with Arimidex and Nolva, my BP runs a little high, so I am changing my stack to use less test and more things that don't screw up my aromatase enzymes.

My point is this; it's dangerous to lie to your doc. It's your health you are talking about. My doc is a great believer in HRT for older guys like me so he is not judgemental at all. Watch that BP brother, it truly is the silent killer.
Ranger

[afipunkrocks]

We are talking about two different age groups here. If you are a young guy like me then there is no reason for me to be on HRT. For the older members there is and that is different story for the doc. Unless your doctor is a "special" doc and aids in the administration of AAS and observes you specificly for your bodybuilding goals then you shouldn't tell him anything if your a younger bodybuilder. You will lose your insurance coverage.

[cornfed 2]

Speaking for the other older age group, let me throw a few comments into the mix. When I was in my twenties, I never really thought about dying. To reuse a very overused cliche', I thought I was going to live forever. Now that I am pushing 40, I a. realize that I am not going to live forever and b. realize that I haven't lived nearly long enough yet.

Bodybuilding/weighttraining are supposed to be sports about your health. The fact that we now have access to "super supplements" is great providing that they are used to recover quicker, lift more, grow larger,etc. WITHOUT compromising health.

This isn't a race. Unless you planning on earning your living as a professional wrestler or Mr. Universe, I can't see any reason to compromise your health in the quest for 20" guns.

Now, back to the point of the thread.

I respect the membership of this board a great deal. However, there is no one on this board to whom I would completely trust my health.

Therefore, if gear is causing health problems such as high blood pressure, you should have a qualified medical professional that you can openly discuss your medical condition and seek appropriate treatment. If you don't have that professional, find one. If you can't find one, take a serious look at why you are using gear and make you own decision as to whether or not this is worth it to have the biggest guns in the local gym.

[cogear]

I know that this problem is unique to me but...
I was taking d-bol and my blood pressure went up. an artery in my eye enlarged and cut off a vein on my retina. My vision blurred in the beginning and then blood was discharged into the eye fluid which caused blindness. After about 6 months and eye surgery my vision is almost back to normal. I guess my point is that high blood pressure should not be taken lightly. I am only now resuming the cycle I started when this happened. My blood pressure is now under medication.

[panterapupE]

INTENSE!

[Tapeworm]

Dang "cogear" thats some scary stuff to go through with ur vision. Then to finish off the cycle, ur hardcore, good luck. Im all for letting the docs in on whats going on. Ive had the same doc for the past 20 plus years, if anyone knows me he does. I know I can trust him, so Im going to have to let him know when I decide Im ready to start the stuff.