? for you mega calorie guys

[Jeff]

I've been reading amplified & lucky's diets and wonder what eating goals you go for daily. Such as how many calories, carbs, protein, etc you try to get and do you limit fat intake? Also do you guys do any cardio, if so, why not just eat a little less, wouldn't that accomplish the same thing? I new to all this so I assume that the gear uses these excess calories? Please explain? Thanks

In my diet I try to go for 4000-5000 calories a day, will up that intake a bit as my cycle continues, but with the exception of a few dys a week, I try to limit the fat intake, and eat a ratio of protein to carbs...600:150, and I limit the carbs as the day gets older.

[bigrak04]

The most important nutrient is obviously Protein. Protein is the key ingredient for building muscle. When i'm bulking, my goals are just to eat as much protein as possible. Calories and carbs are important, but they are there to give us the energy our bodies need to grow. Fats are not bad for you at all. Fat is a better energy source than carbohydrates. You really only need to watch your saturated fat intake cause the only thing it does for you is make you fat. But if you are on gear and you are bulking, the best advice i can give you is just eat anything and evrything and then just lose the weight later.
BigRak

[S@nToZ]

I aim for 4500-6000 but usually only scrape 4000 cals. 400-500g from protein, 300-400g from carbs, 100g from fat(EFA's). The only cardio i do is before i hit the weights for 10mins, and after weights for 15mins.
Your right about increasing calories on gear but I feel I higher protein and fat intake is more important than carbs alone!.
IMO I feel that fat is one of the most important substances to bodybuilers as it stops your body from naturally storing fat. I am not taking about satuated fats here!! but EFA's like flax oil, primrose oil, olive oil and fat from coldwater fish. I take 60grms of flax oil, 5grms of primrose oil, 15grms of olive oil and 20grms from fish a day!. my bf is only 10%!!.

I just try to eat mild fats, Flax seed 1000mdsx 3 times a day, a multi-vitamin, and moderate carbs with high protein!!!!!

Good Post Bigrak, your really starting to learn your stuff Bro, I'm proud of ya!!!!

Eat! Eat! Eat! Especially when your on a cycle, your body thrives on food, you gotta have the calories & especially the Protein to grow!!!!!

TMs new diet is called the LUCKY Diet!!!

Oh yea & Jeff, I do cardio 2-3 times per week at 30 min per session on a Mass Cycle. It keeps my blood flowing, it gives me energy, and most important it makes my appetite go thru the roof!

Cardio helps with Mass Gains Big Time! IMO

I like hitting 15 minutes before each workout, I find it gets the blood flowing, and I have better lifts!!!!

[amplified]

Protein and carbs are equally important in my opinion. I disagree with the statement that fats are a better source of energy than carbs. Complex carbs are by far the best source of energy for a bodybuilder. If you keep your diet high in complex carbs, protein, and have a very small intake of fat, you will yield the best results. You won't realize how important carbs are and how much of a difference they actually make until you properly implement them into your diet.

<small>[ August 07, 2002, 01:16 AM: Message edited by: amplified ]</small>

A-MEN bro!!!

[bigrak04]

Amp, you can diagree all you want but it is the truth. Unsaturated fats are a better energy source than carbs. Let me explain: Protein and carbs both have 4 calories per gram. Fat has 9 calories per gram. If my memory serves me right, a calorie measures the value of foods for producing heat and energy in the body. Fat has over twice the calories of carbs so it can produce more heat and energy. Also, when you take in too many carbs, your body stores it in your body as fat anyway. Your body does this so you can use this fat as energy if for some reason you are not getting enough calories in your diet. You are better off taking in complex carbs as an energy source cause it is harder for your body to store complex carbs as fat than actual fat, but eating a diet too low in fat can hinder gaining mass.

That is why you have cheat days on a lifting diet, so you get some fats in your system!!! But eating enough steak, eggs, and even yogurt will put put some level of fat in your diet, thus sustaining growth!!! Complex carbs, moderate levels of FAT, AND HIGH PROTEIN, ARE KEYS....not fat alone...besides, the POLY, and MONO UN saturated fats are the ones you wanna intake more of, and SALMON, FLAX SEED OIL(1000mgs x3 servings) and other OMEGA 3 sources will help with this!!!!

[bigrak04]

You hit the nail on the head with that one Pecs. Good post bro. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[amplified]

bigrak.... i never said to iliminate fats from your diet .... i stated that complex carbs are a better source of energy and chances are LESS for them to be stored as fat. if you like bodybuilding under a layer of lard, thats you. i personally prefer seeing my muscles grow. my suggestion: try complex carbs (brown rice, sweet potatoes, whole grain bread, carbohydrate drinks) as opposed to 'unsaturated fats' for your primary energy source. if you don't lose weight, and continue to increase muscle mass, i'll give up bodybuilding and take up cross-stiching. btw, my year round bodyfat is 9%

<small>[ August 07, 2002, 10:04 PM: Message edited by: amplified ]</small>