Natural Liver Cleansers and Protectors

[FlatLine]

Everyone knows to use Milk Thistle to help the liver during cycles, but does everyone know that Oregon Grape, Dandelion, and Turmeric also aid the liver? Oregon Grape and Dandelion both cleanse the blood and liver, while Turmeric protects the liver against toxins. Looks like some herbs worth checking out in my book! Later

[SHINE]

I allready take Milkthistle, but the rest is new. I will have to check in on some of this stuff. My dad is real big on the herb thing, he looks great for 58 years.

Thanks for all the good info,
May God bless you and your family this
Holiday season.

Peace, From Shine.

[Robyn]

thanks Flat for the info, God knows what i'm doing to my system w/ all the shit i take, i'm down with herbal remedies in more ways than one!

[FlatLine]

No problem guys, just trying to look out!

[SHINE]

Just some more liver help, I read that Lecithin which is the main source of choline is also improtant for liver function. This is a sup I thought about adding to my herb diet.

Best Regards Shine.

[FlatLine]

Lecithin, hmmmmm, I'll read up on this one tonite, Thanks Shine.

[Skii]

what about tylers liver detox, other boards are raving about it?

[SHINE]

I've never tried it but like you said all the boards seem to really talk it up.
I might give it a try one of these days.

[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: Shine ]

[Skii]

yeah its not that expensive but reading the ingredients doesnt seem to have enough of anything in it!

[D-F]

This was posted by Fonz at elite. He really knows his shit..

"Ok, I'm seeing more and more people using Milk thistle.
Well, guess what?
IT DOES NOTHING.
Even plain water is better than Milk Thistle.

So, STOP throwing your money away.
It won't even stem the tide, the liver will still
be bombarded by the 17-aa steroid molecule.
It doesn't even affect liver protection or
regeneration.
I'm not kidding here. Milk thistle won't do a thing.
So, if you use it alone with 17-aa's, you're more
than likely to get high liver enzyme values or WORSE
if using hepatoxic 17-aa's like Anadrol/Halo/winstrol
etc.....
These THREE are the ONLY ONES worth taking. PERIOD.
1. ALA at 600mg/day. THIS IS THE BEST. BAR NONE.
2. Tylers liver detox: Because it includes 3-4 substances
that would cost a fortune to buy by themselves. Not to
mention complicate matters b/c of availibility.(You'd
have to buy from several places at once)
3. Cranberry extract: NOT FOR THE LIVER. but
for the KIDNEYS. ALA and Tylers have little impact
on the kidneys. Cranberry however does.
Dosage: 3000mgs/day
4.(Up and coming) Calcium D-Glucarate: USED AFTER THE
CYCLE.(Some people use it during their cycle but
wether its effective or not is highly debatable).
This a relatively complicated substance to use and
needs to be researched before taking it.
Hard to find too.(Hence the up and coming denotation)

There are other more exotic ones for the liver but are EXPENSIVE
and I think irrelevant because ALA does everything they do.(And
more)
So, to finish up. possible combo's:
1. If price is an issue: ALA+cranberry
2. If not: ALA+Tylers+cranberry.

The reasson I picked ALA over tylers is while they both
protect the liver, ALA has MANY MORE benefits than
Tylers. Including, amazing anti-oxidant power,
increased glucose up-take, incresased oxygen up-take
by the heart etc.. etc..
It also RE-GENERATES damaged liver hepatocytes which
Tylers does NOT do.

These are the only effective ones. The rest I'd flush down
the toilet.
Remember, its your liver. Don't take any chances with
mythical rumours imparted years ago that just hapenned to
brainwash people and made them think that a substance was
actually effective when it really wasn't

The only AAS that Milk thistle would even have an impact on
would be Anavar. And that would be pushing it IMHO."Fonz..

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I personally use ALA at 600mgs 3/day while bulking. It can really repartition the nutrients you consume, allowing more glucose to be absorbed by the muscles.
D.

[Skii]

good info! alot of the vets here swear by milk thistle thats why i got it for my next cycle but also got ALA and cran ex. better to be safe then sorry.

[IronRod]

Good info, thanks D-F!

[FlatLine]

Thanks D-F, I don't agree with all of it but that's just me.