Is there such a thing as a diet cycle???

[rick]

I have always tinkered with the idea of a diet cycle, meaning losing fat while adding muscle. Is there such a thing. I am 36, about 15%bf, 200 lbs., bench 315, good mass, but can never get rid of love handles, extra breast tissue and stomach fat. I have done a few cycles over the years with mixed results. I have heard good things about primo tabs, but could never locate them. I was thinking of trying var, winny, and possibly some a-dex for the breast tissue. Any thoughts. I am well muscled but have never gotten that hard look. Thanks

[Fireantsarespicy]

Effective Cutting Cycle

Week Equipoise Winstrol/Stromba Proviron
1 300-400 mg/week
2 300-400 mg/week
3 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day
4 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day
5 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day
6 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day
7 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day
8 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day
9 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day
10 300-400 mg/week 25-50 mg every (other) day 50-100 mg/day

Very effective cutting cycle. Beginners would start at 300 mg a week for equipoise or may even wish to consider using Methenolone (Primobolan) instead at 300-400 mg a week, since methenolone does not aromatize. Most people with a little experience will prefer Boldenone (equipoise) because it has better gains and the minor aromatization would cause no problems on a large frame. Note that if you do opt for methenolone, the use of mesterolone (Proviron) near the end of a stack is no longer needed at all. The Winstrol dose is your biggest concern. If you inject I would say regardless of anything, use 50 mg every other day. Only people with a certain mass would use 50 mg every day. If you ingest, I would say either 25-50 mg every day for beginners or 50 mg every day for veterans. I wouldn't go any higher with the use of Winstrol at 8 weeks due to hepatoxicity. If more is needed, increasing equipoise makes more sense. Adding the proviron at the end will totally block any form of aromatization from the equipoise and free more of the stuff up because it has a high affinity for sex-hormone binding structures. It also offers a distinct hardness, which, in conjunction with Winny, should give you the cuts of a life-time as you progress towards the end of a cycle.

Needless to say the fat-reducing effect of steroids is not all that great, to get the results you need in terms of losing body-fat a diet and some cardio will be needed, perhaps the use of analog fat-burning compounds such as ECA, Cytomel or clenbuterol.

[zodiac]

Maybe that cycle would work on a greyhound physique...not for everyone and those dosages are relatively small. Winstrol is useless for me. But I like what you stated at the bottom about diet and cardio-it's the only way to cut-steroids do NOT do much.

[rick]

Thanks for the input. A couple of follow-up questions. Does this cycle allow you to reduce your caloric intake and actually diet? As for the cardio, I will go that route but the problem remains. I can get as low as 8%bf with a strict diet and five days a week of cardio, but the tough fat remains eg. the breast and love handle stuff. I have no experience whatsoever with T3, or cytomel. Are they fairly free of side effects? Also, the primo tabs seem to be the way I would like to go. Do they exist, I have not heard of too many people finding the real deal. Thanks.

[zodiac]

What did your cycles consist of? duration? You could forget about primo tabs..waste of time. Maybe you are not pushing yourself hard enough..you need to have that die hard determination no matter what. You say you can reach 8% and still have some fat---then perhaps theres nothing you can do if that is accurate...lipo maybe. I would just run some Test, Tren Enan, some orals like Var or Tbol and hit it hard. I am sorry if I am not much help.

[FUZO]

Hey Fire That Cycle Wont Work. First Eq Needs To Be Run Longer 12-16 Weeks. And Atleast 500-600mgs A Week.the Winny 6-8 Weeks Ed At 50mg 100mg To Much Joints Will Take A Beating. 3rd You Need Test. Beginners Listen Up Test In Every Cycle Bulking And Cutting.

Last. You Dont Need Gear To Get Into Shape. Proper Healthy Eating And Exercise And Cardio.

[Fireantsarespicy]

Originally Posted by FUZO

Hey Fire That Cycle Wont Work. First Eq Needs To Be Run Longer 12-16 Weeks. And Atleast 500-600mgs A Week.the Winny 6-8 Weeks Ed At 50mg 100mg To Much Joints Will Take A Beating. 3rd You Need Test. Beginners Listen Up Test In Every Cycle Bulking And Cutting.

Last. You Dont Need Gear To Get Into Shape. Proper Healthy Eating And Exercise And Cardio.

Hey fuzo thanks for the input man good stuff

[Fireantsarespicy]

Originally Posted by rick

Thanks for the input. A couple of follow-up questions. Does this cycle allow you to reduce your caloric intake and actually diet? As for the cardio, I will go that route but the problem remains. I can get as low as 8%bf with a strict diet and five days a week of cardio, but the tough fat remains eg. the breast and love handle stuff. I have no experience whatsoever with T3, or cytomel. Are they fairly free of side effects? Also, the primo tabs seem to be the way I would like to go. Do they exist, I have not heard of too many people finding the real deal. Thanks.

Just to clear this up you might know but you can't spot lose fat sadly enough but I heard of some transdermal stuff on a few research chem sites they "say" they work but who knows. another thing you might just be retaining water. check into that.